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An important interview and the beginning of a dialogue

By Richard B. Muhammad - Editor | Last updated: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:02:53 PM

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CHICAGO—An historic interview between America’s leading conspiracy theorist and the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan may have opened minds and perhaps hearts to different viewpoints, but it certainly fostered the beginning of a dialogue.

The highly respectful exchange between the Alex Jones of InfoWars.Com and Min. Farrakhan was broadcast over the internet on Jan. 20 as a major topic of Mr. Jones’ regular four-show and went live at the same time at the official website of the Nation of Islam, NOI.org. Mr. Jones titled his documentary, which ran about 56 minutes, “Louis Farrakhan: Angel Or Devil? In this powerful, unprecedented interview, Alex Jones and Farrakhan break the mold.” The video presentation by Final Call Broadcasting was titled “Minister Louis Farrakhan Speaks: The Full Interview with Alex Jones” and was an hour and 56 minutes long.

The interview was prompted by questions from Mr. Jones had regarding a speech last year in Miami, following false reports that Min. Farrakhan called for 10,000 fearless to “kill White people,” and that lie and others were destroyed during session taped Jan. 4 at the home of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, patriarch of the Nation of Islam in Phoenix, which serves as a western headquarters for the Nation.

During his broadcast, Mr. Jones referred to the Minister as the “2nd Most Influential Black Man in The World,” with only President Barack Obama having more influence as president of the United States. He also referred to the Minister as one of the 100 most influential Blacks in history and among the most important five or six Black figures in recent decades.

The interview included Mr. Jones’ perspectives and views but it also was perhaps one of the most extensive in having Min. Farrakhan speak directly to an audience concerning the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad in a largely unedited interview, which Mr. Jones said was only changed to meld similar points the Minister made in the interview together. It did not, however, include the entire interview but The Final Call broadcast did.

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Alex Jones host of infowars.com, an internet alternative news site, interviews Min. Farrakhan. Photo: Richard B. Muhammad

Comments on social media, including the Alex Jones Facebook page, were not all positive but interest had been peaked and some awareness raised: “I have to say......watching this interview I find one thing......There is something insidious...not quite palpable, that I am feeling or detecting......I can’t place my finger on it but I am sure of one thing......this is a troubling interview. I will admit that I was raised to be skeptical of this man and this might be skewing my interpretations....Listening to his other rallies and interviews this man is a totally different beast.......hehe not Alex but Mr. Farrakhan,” said James Arthur Bartlett.

“Mr. Jones, I loved the interview. It was refreshing to see Mr. Farrakhan in a different light. I also loved the reference to Planned Parenthood and its history. I will say one thing, however: that the white devils are not only in the Democratic party, but also in the Republican party. Great Interview,” said  Arturo A. Armendariz in comments on the Alex Jones Facebook page.

Dylan Stacey, replying on the Jones Facebook page, was blunt: “I approached this interview with hatred of the character of Louis Farrakhan and walked away with a better understanding of where his mind set comes from and an appropriation of his damn near same view of the global elites as I do. The globalist are going to try and will succeed in killing us all if we don’t make our stand and continue the INFOWARS thank you Commander Jones. The resistance awaits.”

“Very well put together I’m impressed,” commented Matthew Johnson. “I lived in a African American community that had it not been for the NoI it’d turned into total anarchy in the 90’s, I even went to see Farrrakhan speak, and I’m still friends with many of the people I met back then, and I’m white as rice. I think it’s great you did this, the Nation is largely misunderstood by people.”

Others were less impressed and some skeptical of the Minister and of Mr. Jones, but a conversation has begun. “1. It’s a start, because behind the scenes, of what most don’t see, (is) there is a lot that the powers that be are worrying about... So, go and get Farrakhan and sit down Alex Jones, this Hell is getting desperately hot! 2. When Mr. Jones confirmed that everything Minister Farrakhan said about the weather is coming to past right now. 3. Expeditiously!... TIME is a running out!” commented Jah La Dream on Minister Farrakhan’s Facebook page.

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Screen shot of comments posted on Alex Jones’ FaceBook page.

Mall Scott added, “Yes I do think a part two should take place, after watching some of these presidential debates it’s nice to see two individuals come together for a truly intellectual conversation even though (my opinion) the minister brought the real wisdom, it was a wise decision for alex jones to reach out to the minister and make an effort to create this dialogue. I’ll look forward to part 2.”

“Good Interview!” Sheku Lamin Sangari observed. “What would be interesting is to to see a panel of people such as the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, George Galloway MP, Jesse Ventura and two other people to dialogue or debate with a chairman or chairwoman of the panel and a live audience that can ask questions if possible!”

Nabil Zoobi, on the Minister’s Facebook page declared: “Exposing Satan, calling Time on the Gog and Magog system. Blowing the Trumpet of Judgment !!! Farrakhan is the Man we read about in Revelation. FACT !”

“Patriots of all colors and creeds will come together, celebrate their differences and defeat the UN globalist agenda,” said Russell Adkerson. “The minister is correct,political discourse has gotten low brow. Alex Jones and minister Farrhakan are conducting themselves like adults,” added John Hanner on Facebook.

And on Facebook, Peggy Hatchet observed: “It’s brilliant how Minister Louis Farrakhan makes a clear distinction about an important matter, using ‘babies in a crib’... (giggles) ~ phenomenal ~”

When Mr. Jones asked why he agreed to the interview, the Minister explained there is value to “the idea of dialogue, truthful dialogue, that gets us past the media manipulation of persons, events, and the truths of persons and events.”

“I’ve been talking to Black people for 60 or more years and Black people understand me pretty well. But White people don’t know me and may not understand me,” he said. “Now, Black people I know because I’m Black and I come up from among my people. But to have a chance now to speak to a White audience, mainly who may be conservative in their culture, thoughts and desires, and for me to be able to represent the Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad to that group and answer questions that they are interested in hearing a truthful answer to.”

Interview subjects ranged from conspiracy, to the shadow government ruling America, the country’s future, God’s special desire and plan to use Black people to build a new reality, abortion, U.S. policy in the Middle East, presidential politics and Donald Trump and God’s judgement against America. 

Warnings about the tenor of American politics and how if it degenerates it diminishes America’s stature, and a clear warning from the Minister that no political hopeful will be successful unless the candidate deals forthrightly with justice for Blacks in America and the indigenous people of this nation was an important part of the interview.

“The one thing that’s missing in the dialogue, even with Mr. Trump, nobody’s talking about the future of Black people, the future of the Indigenous, the Native Americans. This country, the original sin of America, is the destruction over 120 million native people,” said Min. Farrakhan.

“So if Mr. Trump, and I believe he’s bold enough, if he knew how much God is interested in the future of Black people; not that (God’s) not interested in the future of ‘all people,’ but he’s interested in the future of Black people for this reason. … Black people, no matter what we have suffered up to this very moment, we have never been spies for any foreign government against America. We have never risen up as a force against the tyranny that has been imposed on us by our government. We have fought in every war from the Revolutionary War all the way up to the last war that there was in the Gulf.   We have a heart, Mr. Jones, of forgiveness. A heart that today we can love those who have done us so much evil. So God wants to use us,” he said.

But Min. Farrakhan added, citing the words of his teacher, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, America is under divine judgment wracked by unusual weather destroying lives and property. The United States is reaping what she has sown for the murder and oppression of Blacks and the indigenous people and God himself is punishing America, he said.

The weather will continue to get worse and this is a dangerous time, the Minister added.

“I got to say my teacher again is the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I believe him to be a messenger of God. I believe that God raised him as a warner to America,” said Min. Farrakhan.

The Minister agreed with Mr. Jones that an evil and powerful minority is trying to drive humanity to the brink, regardless of race or religion and looks to create, foment, exploit and benefit from conflict and strife. These “globalists” are only loyal to themselves and have people fighting one another while they claim everything, argued Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones has major detractors for criticism of the Black Lives Matter Movement and when a heavily armed group of Whites came to Ferguson, Mo., last summer, some carrying AR-15 rifles, they said they came to protect an InfoWars.Com reporter. Many also take exception to Mr. Jones vehement attacks on President Obama and accuse him of right-wing racism. Some feel content he airs stirs the racial pot.

Mr. Jones insisted the only racism he has seen expressed against Blacks has come from liberals and Whites and Blacks in politics who don’t want the Black masses.